Sam Margin from The Rubens sits down to talk touring life, the reality of music in 2026, and why he made the call to sell his dream Porsche 911. He also reveals the surprising hilarious inspiration behind “Pets and Drugs” and has plenty to say about AI rewriting the music industry. This is EP1 of IDLE TALK.

0:00 IDLE talk Ep1: Sam Margin Intro
0:55 Streaming Algorithms Are Controlling Your Career
3:12 Electric Vehicles vs Petrol: No Soul?
4:53 AI’s Threat to Musicians and Creatives
7:07 Porsche 911 Sam Sold During COVID
15:49 Touring with Springsteen and Pink
22:10 Festival Rockstar Moment: The Bloody Beer
27:00 Holy Grail Cover and Online Criticism
30:13 Michael Gudinski’s Career-Changing Phone Call
32:43 New Album, TikTok and the Streaming Trap
39:29 Surfing Teahupo’o and Getting Circled by Sharks
43:25 Lightning Round: Sam’s Final Confessions

IDLE TALK is the new podcast series from carsales, where we put fascinating people in a car and find out what really drives them. EP1 features Sam Margin, frontman of The Rubens, on touring with Bruce Springsteen and Pink, the Porsche 911 he had to let go, and why music discovery will never be the same.

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